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Congratulations

Submitted on October 26th, 2008 by Doug Symington

Great stuff Bill. Will bring my own gluten-free beer when I stop by to get my copy autographed. Looking forward to developments on the DrupalEd front.

Congratulations

Submitted on October 27th, 2008 by alex_b

Congratulations, Bill. I'm looking forward to check out this book.

I'm very glad to see that

Submitted on October 27th, 2008 by Lee Hunter

I'm very glad to see that you are focusing on matching content to user roles. I think this is an important principle that hasn't yet received enough attention in the Drupal handbooks. However, I'm not sure I'd agree with what you said about administrators creating content types and designing a navigational structure. Like other CMS, Drupal has an administration interface which misleads people to think that everything you can do with that interface should be documented as if it were part of an administrator "role". I would say that an administrator job function does not involve creating new content types or designing information architecture. That's the role of a site designer or developer. An administrator role is about site administration: adding and removing users, resetting passwords, backing up and restoring content, setting cron jobs etc.

While it's true that quite often in the real world a given administrator also happens to be the same person who adds and edits content [an editor or contributer user role], creates new content types [designer user role] etc., it's actually much more helpful if each role is addressed separately. That way, you can focus on the objectives that each role wants to achieve: the administrator wants the site to stay available to authorized users; the designer/developer wants to customize the site to meet the requirements of the user and the business.

Thanks

Submitted on October 27th, 2008 by Bill

Doug and Alex -- thanks! And Doug, if gluten-free is a requirement, then I'm thinking we should probably go straight to tequila.

Lee -- you make some excellent points, and on the whole I strongly agree with you. The challenge we see with user roles often occurs when we attempt to balance the ideal user role combination with how an organization or school is staffed. On bigger sites, this is less of an issue, as bigger sites usually have more people with a role in maintaining the site. Frequently, though, a small group of people will have overlapping responsibilities, and the challenge then becomes how to align the ideal user privileges (from a maintenance and upkeep perspective) with what an organization is staffed to support. Whenever we have a tension between the ideal role structure and how an organization is staffed, we try to create an alternate admin UI for specific tasks. This supports individual users working on the site without creating the usability hurdle of creating multiple role-based logins for a small group of users performing various site maintenance tasks.

Really, it gets down to a blend of a role based UI and a task-based UI. Whenever possible, we try and combine these, but if relying on multiple roles to create the task-based UI creates a usability challenge, we create the task-based UI and only expose options where it makes the most sense.

Kindling your book?

Submitted on November 4th, 2008 by madeline.brownstone@gmail.com

Congratulations. I'm using Youth Voices (Great work Bill!) and am interested to know if your book will be Kindlized?

Kindle-ized

Submitted on November 5th, 2008 by Bill

Hello, Madeline,

Thanks for the kind words re Youth Voices.

RE the Kindle: I'm not sure. I'll check with Packt and see what they say. There is a PDF version that should display pretty cleanly on a machine like the OLPC, but I'm not sure about the Kindle.

I'll post back here (and probably on the blog) when I get clarification on this.

Great work!

Submitted on March 23rd, 2010 by Jen Harper

I bought it last year and now my first projects are alive! Thanks a lot!

Love Youth Voices. I just

Submitted on November 25th, 2011 by Rasty

Love Youth Voices. I just read this article about the song "Cater 2 U" by Destiny's Child.

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